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A '''Villain''' is a person who has committed a crime meeting the [[Specifications for Warranting a Page]]. They are people or groups who committed serious crimes like rape, murder, war crimes, domestic or child abuse, genocide, major league drugs or weapons trafficking or torture. They are NOT people who hold controversial opinions, no matter how reprehensible. They are also not ~~minor criminals who have committed crimes like fraud or vandalism, or~~ people who are not proven guilty.

A '''Villain''' is a person who has committed a crime meeting the [[Specifications for Warranting a Page]]. They are people or groups who committed serious crimes like rape, murder, war crimes, domestic or child abuse, genocide, major league drugs or weapons trafficking or torture. They are NOT people who hold controversial opinions, no matter how reprehensible. They are also not people who are not proven guilty (see [[Specifications for Warranting a Page/Standard of proof|the standard of proof]] for more information).

==Criteria==

*They must be provably guilty.

*They must be provably guilty. They cannot have an article if they are alleged to commit a crime.

*They must have committed a serious crime, and not just be disliked or hold controversial opinions.

*They cannot be ~~a random~~ Internet user.

*They cannot be an Internet user who has never been mentioned on any media outlets.

*Rational people cannot be able to dispute whether or not they are a villain.

*Rational people cannot be able to dispute whether or not they are a villain (except in some grey zone cases such as [[Imre Nagy]] where the villain is seen as a hero by some, but facts show otherwise).

*All facts must be verifiable and come from reliable sources.

*All facts must be verifiable and come from reliable sources (this includes news, books, historical accounts, etc.).

**Similarly, they must have been mentioned in the media.

**Similarly, they must have been mentioned in the media, the one exception being ancient villains who lived before the media, in which case credible historical accounts will suffice. This rule was made per [[Tim's Message]].

*~~All those across the political spectrum must~~ be ~~able to agree~~ that they are a villain.

*Political ideology cannot be a factor in deciding that they are a villain (except in extreme cases where the page deals with a dictator).

==Types of people who cannot have pages==

*Politicians (except dictators ~~or those who have committed definite crimes, for example [[Dennis Hastert]]~~).

NOTE: Any celebrities, politicians, judges or lawyers who have committed non-controversial crimes such as rape or murder are exempt from these rules as long as they are provably guilty.

*Politicians (except dictators).

*Judges

*Lawyers

*Corporations

*Corrupt officials (only ones underneath dictatorships)

*Anyone from mythology

*Anyone from theology

*Random Internet users.

*People who ~~are only allegedly guilty~~.

*People who fail to meet the specifications for warranting a page or standard of proof.

[[Category:Policy]]

[[Category:Site maintenance]]

[[Category:About Villains]]

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-A '''Villain''' is a person who has committed a crime meeting the [[Specifications for Warranting a Page]]. They are people or groups who committed serious crimes like rape, murder, war crimes, domestic or child abuse, genocide, major league drugs or weapons trafficking or torture. They are NOT people who hold controversial opinions, no matter how reprehensible. They are also not minor criminals who have committed crimes like fraud or vandalism, or people who are not proven guilty.
+A '''Villain''' is a person who has committed a crime meeting the [[Specifications for Warranting a Page]]. They are people or groups who committed serious crimes like rape, murder, war crimes, domestic or child abuse, genocide, major league drugs or weapons trafficking or torture. They are NOT people who hold controversial opinions, no matter how reprehensible. They are also not people who are not proven guilty (see [[Specifications for Warranting a Page/Standard of proof|the standard of proof]] for more information).
 ==Criteria==
-*They must be provably guilty.
+*They must be provably guilty. They cannot have an article if they are alleged to commit a crime.
 *They must have committed a serious crime, and not just be disliked or hold controversial opinions.
-*They cannot be a random Internet user.
+*They cannot be an Internet user who has never been mentioned on any media outlets.
-*Rational people cannot be able to dispute whether or not they are a villain.
+*Rational people cannot be able to dispute whether or not they are a villain (except in some grey zone cases such as [[Imre Nagy]] where the villain is seen as a hero by some, but facts show otherwise).
-*All facts must be verifiable and come from reliable sources.
+*All facts must be verifiable and come from reliable sources (this includes news, books, historical accounts, etc.).
-**Similarly, they must have been mentioned in the media.
+**Similarly, they must have been mentioned in the media, the one exception being ancient villains who lived before the media, in which case credible historical accounts will suffice. This rule was made per [[Tim's Message]].
-*All those across the political spectrum must be able to agree that they are a villain.
+*Political ideology cannot be a factor in deciding that they are a villain (except in extreme cases where the page deals with a dictator).
 ==Types of people who cannot have pages==
-*Politicians (except dictators or those who have committed definite crimes, for example [[Dennis Hastert]]).
+NOTE: Any celebrities, politicians, judges or lawyers who have committed non-controversial crimes such as rape or murder are exempt from these rules as long as they are provably guilty.
+*Politicians (except dictators).
 *Judges
 *Lawyers
 *Corporations
-*Corrupt officials (only ones underneath dictatorships)
 *Anyone from mythology
 *Anyone from theology
 *Random Internet users.
-*People who are only allegedly guilty.
+*People who fail to meet the specifications for warranting a page or standard of proof.
 [[Category:Policy]]
 [[Category:Site maintenance]]
 [[Category:About Villains]]