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Ivan lost his mother to the boyars when he was a kid, and assassination plots against him were not uncommon, plus he suffered a breakdown when his wife died, so I think he qualifies as a tragic villain, since he initially intended to be a good ruler when she was alive (he claimed to have received a message from God, telling him not to neglect his people). Also, if "Fanatic" is "all that's needed", then why are both Categories on the other Villains wiki? Ivan's religion was his obsession, but fanaticism and religion aren't always the same.Pyromania101 (talk) 22:21, October 12, 2012 (UTC)